Consequences of no inaccessible accumulation point

November 28, 2011 at 14:05 | Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment

This post is just an organizational one without any proofs. I wanted to list a few consequences of the following conjecture of Shelah:

  • If {\mathfrak{a}} is a progressive set of regular cardinals, then {{\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a})} does not have a weakly inaccessible point of accumulation.

Equivalently, if {\mathfrak{a}} is a progressive set of regular cardinals, then {{\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a})\cap\kappa} is bounded in {\kappa} for every weakly inaccessible {\kappa}.

In his paper [Sh:666], Shelah argues that this conjecture is “a significant dividing line between chaos and order”.


One answer is outlined in [Sh:666]: if the conjecture is true, then for any progressive set of regular cardinals {\mathfrak{a}} we have

\displaystyle  {\rm cf}\left(\prod\mathfrak{\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a}), <\right)={\rm cf}\left(\prod\mathfrak{a}, <\right), \ \ \ \ \ (1)

while if the conjecture fails one can force a counterexample to the above statement.

The above is really just an outcropping of deeper results from the third section of Chapter VIII of The Book, where Shelah proves that a subset {\mathfrak{b}} of {{\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a})} which does not have a weakly inaccessible accumulation point still has a nice pcf structure, even though it may be the case that {\mathfrak{b}} is not progressive. In particular, we have {{\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{b})\subseteq{\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a})} for such a {\mathfrak{b}}. As a corollary, we see that if Shelah’s conjecture is true, then

\displaystyle  {\rm pcf}({\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a}))={\rm pcf}(\mathfrak{a}) \ \ \ \ \ (2)

for any progressive set of regular cardinals {\mathfrak{a}}.

But Shelah’s Conjecture also has consequences for cardinal arithmetic as well: this is the content of the fourth section of [Sh:430]. I invite the adventurous reader to take a look at that particular piece of Shelah’s oeuvre, because at this point I have no idea what the theorems say. Well, that’s not quite true, as I have a vague idea of what they say, but they are couched in the language of nice filters originating in Chapter V of The Book, and that’s a language I’ve not yet tried to learn. In [Sh:666], he says that if the conjecture holds and {\aleph_\delta} is the {\omega_1}th fixed point (strong limit), then {{\rm pp}(\aleph_\delta)} is less than then {\omega_4}th fixed point. (But I don’t actually see this in [Sh:430] so it’s possible that something was retracted.).


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